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HahiHa
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I just saw a video about the E-Ship 1, a rotor ship, or Flettner ship, which uses rotorsails for propulsion.

Flettner ships use the Magnus effect, that moves a rotating body in a fluidstream due to different pressures; just like a conventional sail, but with a different form. The rotors have to be powered by motors, and it seems at the time it was invented that they were less efficient than conventional engines; but the E-Ship 1 that was built not long ago apparently manages to save quite a lot of diesel with these rotors, combined with an aero- and aquadynamic form as well as silicon coating for less friction.

Do you think this could be used for all cargo boats on the world and make it possible to save quite a lot of fuel and diminish polution over time?

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Maverick5762
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I'm somewhat confused on how it works still. The wind spins something, and that propels the boat? I need pictures... lol

HahiHa
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Ok, here's the picture from the link I gave in the OP. You can read everything there too, but basically the rotor is turning on his own, with a motor, and the wind is flowing around it. On one side the wind is accelerated, on the other it is decelerated. Bernoulli tells us that pressure drops in moving air; so the pressure on the side where the wind is decelerated will be higher, thus pushing the rotor perpendiculary to the wind stream.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Magnus_effect.svg/644px-Magnus_effect.svg.png

Somewhat49
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Interesting way of making boats move but I dunno if it could be used for big cargo holds unless there's alot of rotorsails.

HahiHa
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Ya, I have also asked myself up to which limit the rotors still are more efficient than today's engines.

Somewhat49
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Also what if the system fails? Like is there a wind that could be too stong for it and break it? Also is there a top limit for the ship because that could hinder it's functionality.

HahiHa
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I don't think that even a very strong wind might break those, they are in rotation and not immobile like for example a tree; also a very strong wind will likely boost the ship rather than break the columns. The real danger might be, at least more than 'usual', monster waves..

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don't think that even a very strong wind might break those, they are in rotation and not immobile like for example a tree; also a very strong wind will likely boost the ship rather than break the columns. The real danger might be, at least more than 'usual', monster waves..



Well if it can't break easily, then is there a maximum speed? Or is it's maximum speed the speed of the wind? Also since those rotors run only on the wind u'll still need a backup, and the only backup I could think of would be good ol oil.
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Ok, here's the picture from the link I gave in the OP. You can read everything there too, but basically the rotor is turning on his own, with a motor, and the wind is flowing around it. On one side the wind is accelerated, on the other it is decelerated. Bernoulli tells us that pressure drops in moving air; so the pressure on the side where the wind is decelerated will be higher, thus pushing the rotor perpendiculary to the wind stream.


the Bernoulli effect is bull****.
http://static.technorati.com/10/08/26/17031/no-bull****.jpg
Somewhat49
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the Bernoulli effect is bull****.

Sadly I can't veiw the pic, could u make a link instead or something?
HahiHa
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How can it be bull**** if obviously it is working for the E-Ship 1? Do you even know what we're talking about?

Oh, and is this your image?

HahiHa
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Gah.. the link itself is being partly censored. Replace the four stars in the link with the obvious letters and watch that delicate image if his...

Somewhat49
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wow i tried the link and it says it cannot be displayed so ima forget bout tryin to veiw it.

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the Bernoulli effect is bull****.


it's how airplanes fly...
Kalb789
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the caption completes it so well

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