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i was just wondering if anyone could help me decide who i should be out of the 3 factions predominantly, and some tactics for online play.

My friend has Starcraft II. He loves pissing off Korean kids after he creams them in battle.

As a very racist joke, he says that they must practice perfect strategy, or else Kim Jong Il will kill them if they lose even once.

woh woh woh woh woh! A SC2 thread. HOT DOG!
That's right up my ally

My best advice. Pick one race and stick with it. Bouncing from race to race is not ideal.
But since you are feeling out each race, play a little bit of all of them and whatever one FEELS good to you, pick it.
You're going to lose a lot. But don't let that get you down.
WATCH replays. And always ask yourself. I lost, why? or I won, why?

Zerg: Very heavy macro race. A lot of units, fast, not that strong. Good at harass.

Terran: All around very versatile race. Fast units, can be strong. Good amount of micro needed. Great at harass.

Protoss: Very heavy micro. Fewer units, heavy hitter units. Decent at harass. Infamous for the "Deathball". However, this is starting to slowly, very slowly disappear as Protoss are finding better uses of its mechanics.

Strats:
Husky viewers tend to be more of the lower skill set. (He's much more casual and isn't really a huge player)
Day9 viewers tend to be more of the mid to higher skill set. He offers A LOT of great content for newer people. (Is legend in sc1, has been there and done that. Actually plays and knows the game.)
*watching streams is a GREAT way to get to see new strats.
watching tournaments is another great way to watch strats. GSL, MLG, IPL, TSL, Dreamhack, etc., (the list goes on)

You'll want to go to TeamLiquid.net to get a lot of decent strats and anything sc2 related.

GL HF DD GG

Bouncing from race to race is not ideal.

My best advice. Pick one race and stick with it. Bouncing from race to race is not ideal.

WATCH replays. And always ask yourself. I lost, why? or I won, why?

Zerg: Very heavy macro race. A lot of units, fast, not that strong. Good at harass.

Terran: All around very versatile race. Fast units, can be strong. Good amount of micro needed. Great at harass.

Protoss: Very heavy micro. Fewer units, heavy hitter units. Decent at harass. Infamous for the "Deathball". However, this is starting to slowly, very slowly disappear as Protoss are finding better uses of its mechanics.

Day9 viewers tend to be more of the mid to higher skill set.

If you don't know what something is truly capable of how can you possible judge what is needed and what is not?

I will address certain comments but mainly this post is focused for Sev322.
I was going to add this to the bottom of the post. But I feel itâs so important I must add it here.
Never forget your 3Râs. Recon, Read, and React.
Always recon what your enemy is doing. Donât guess.
Always read correctly what your enemy is doing.
Always react appropriately to what you see your enemy is doing. Donât over react, and donât underestimate. If you donât react correctly, it could very well mean the end of the game for you and poor economy choices.
[quote=highfire]At the start familiarizing yourself with each race is so useful to add to your intuition and your knowledge of costs of things, etc.[/quote]
I did say that sticking with one race is ideal. And I followed it up with, âBut since you are feeling out each race, play a little bit of all of them and whatever one FEELS good to you, pick it.â
My above comment hit a lot of peopleâs funny bones and I understand that. But once you find a race you do like, stay with it. You can easily familiarize yourself with other races by:
1. Playing against them.
2. Watching streams.
3. Playing them, but not a lot. I feel this way because unless you are proficient in that race (that isnât your main), timings and other mechanics will be skewed and wrong assumptions could be made.
To recap: because you are new. Place all the races. Find the one you work with the best and I recommend sticking with it.
[quote=Highfire]Solve the first major problem that stemmed into you losing the game, if it's a game you lost. Generally you can pick out a LOT but some / many of them would've been gone if you solved the first one, or something that wouldn't mean as much if you didn't screw up in the first place.[/quote]
I agree here. For example, if you push out with your force at any given time and you lost that battle thus resulting in a loss for the game. It is not necessarily because you lost that battle but rather maybe it was a bad follow up. Maybe your macro wasnât spot on or existent for that matter during a battle. Or maybe because it was a bad unit composition because you didnât have the resources to support what you needed. Something bad in the beginning can affect the game much later on.
[quote=Highfire]Swarmy type race, wins with numbers - generally very mobile, but reactionary by heart.
If you go with this one, scout a lot, maintain map control and remain one base ahead of the enemy - it's essential.[/quote]
Every race you want map control. Honestly, Zergsâ first expo is more important than its others. Because, you can all-in Roach on one base with the 7 Roach rush and it is very effective.
Itâs just very easy for Zerg to expo. Getting a 3rd is not uncommon and can be quite problematic.
[quote=Highfire]Micro and macro is needed for all races. Now that I'm stuck with Zerg I find playing T or P quite difficult actually being as I'm not accustomed to all the number keys and hotkeys to go with them. I'm used to:
3 > S > R++++[/quote]
Lol Iâm protoss and there are not enough hotkeys for me. :P
[quote=Highfire]Terran MM deathballs are also common.
MM = Marine Marauder.[/quote]
The MMM (marine-marauder-medevac) isâ¦wellâ¦itâs still around. But I donât see it all that much. Honestly, an all bio army is almost a no-no now a day. (because of Zergsâ infestor and Tossâ Collosi or High Templar) I see it being effective no higher than Gold league.
Regarding the Protoss Death-Ball, I see it very slowing going away. Or I should say, I see more and more Protoss breaking into smaller groups for certain types of attacks. Just like the 4Gate, there are other options for Protoss and they are slowly starting to develop.
More about my Day9 and Husky comment from before.
Day9 has been there. Heâs been in the competitive gaming scene for 12 years. Heâs been and won tournaments. He knows the game intimately and can really help people not by showing game after game and saying, âoh this is niceâ But he can explain, especially to new people the development process.
Husky on the other hand, he just likes SC and wants to be active in the community. He canât really help people except through observations that heâs seen while casting games.
And another point that a buddy of mine brought up, is that heâs not that much into SC like you would think. Heâs more of a fanboy and this is reflected in his most recent streams. I get it, everyone is posting streams of Diablo3. But, at the same time their focus is still on SC. And now Husky is just moving from game to game. If someone asked him to cast LoL heâd probably pick it up, even if he didnât know that much about it. Someone more into SC would probably turn it down.
I donât hate Husky, I just donât think that more than the casual SC player should invest a lot of time into his casts.
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Every race you want map control.

Because, you can all-in Roach on one base with the 7 Roach rush and it is very effective.

Getting a 3rd is not uncommon and can be quite problematic.

protoss and there are not enough hotkeys for me. :P

There tons of casters, some on a more funny way, but some have a tactical/teaching way, so check some of them (youtube for example), find your favorite... the rest is prectice^^

Day9 is a so proclaimed "Goldilocks" of casting.

Totalbiscuit is a play-by-play caster, as is Husky - although Husky goes into a little more depth.
dApollo occasionally casts with Totalbiscuit, bringing in significantly more detail - beyond that of Husky's.

Tastosis (Tasteless and Artosis) are kind of a Goldilocks commentary team as well, being as a lot of things they talk about isn't even SCII related. :P
They were both former professional players and Tasteless is also Sean's brother.
Sean = Day9.

Day9 is essentially the speartip of eSports (SCII) to anyone outside the community, he wants to be the guy that you can show to your parents with pride.
I would. :P

- H

@ Highfire, lol yeah. about all the weird symbols...

I wrote my extended reply in MS word. I copied and pasted it to the forum box and everything looked fine. And then I hit enter, man, I was like, "ahhghghghghggggggggggggggggggg uh" lol

The Casting Archon(Tasteless and Artosis) are awesome.
I like watching State of the Game but JP can be sooooo boring. lol

I like watching State of the Game but JP can be sooooo boring. lol

I wrote my extended reply in MS word. I copied and pasted it to the forum box and everything looked fine.

I love playing Protoss, because people never expect me to drop DTs in the middle of their base...

Hey, I'm on SC2 like...all the time. Hit me up, PauseBreak.366
I'm roughly a solid plat. player. I'm trying to get diamond but...gotta dream big. lol.

DT is soo risky, especially earlier to mid game. I think at least. If its scouted you're effed.

Person getting dropped by DT = "Man, now I have to get detection"
Person dropping DT = "oh god oh god oh god please don't have detection, please don't have air"

LOL so, yeah. Its a rough call sometimes. DT is map control and harass really, imho. If they scout 2 gases extremely early you can almost guarantee they are teching to DT.

Not to mention, now for Protoss, 3 gate robo is like the new standard. So, they will have obs out. =\\

Hey, I'm on SC2 like...all the time. Hit me up, PauseBreak.366

I'm roughly a solid plat. player. I'm trying to get diamond but...gotta dream big. lol.

DT is soo risky, especially earlier to mid game.

If they scout 2 gases extremely early you can almost guarantee they are teching to DT.

Not to mention, now for Protoss, 3 gate robo is like the new standard. So, they will have obs out. =\\\\

Name: PauseBreak
Character Code: 366
Region: NA
Race: Protoss

Awww shoot I play on the NA server.

@highfire once you get high enough you could play against WhiteRa! I <3 Whitera. I've tried a few of his strats and they've worked all right.

I guess the 4gate and 3gate-robo are all how you scout. I've messed people up with the korean 4gate but sometimes it just doesn't work. =\\

once you get high enough you could play against WhiteRa!

I <3 Whitera.

I've tried a few of his strats and they've worked all right.