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dipindat
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I personally like bf3

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KroPower
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call of duty series is most enjoyable than battle field series.

stephenking
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call of duty series is most enjoyable than battle field series.
That's it? No reason? Okay.

Battlfield for me. Sure, there's a few bad things, say, um, um, um.... I can't think of any right now, but there is a FEW bad things about it. CoD, on the other hand, overpowered weapons, the smallest maps of any FPS (I'm pretty sure about that), 10-year-olds SCREAMING into their mic every time they die, boosting for killstreaks (yes, it's all about the killstreaks), etc.
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Battlfield for me. Sure, there's a few bad things, say, um, um, um.... I can't think of any right now, but there is a FEW bad things about it. CoD, on the other hand, overpowered weapons, the smallest maps of any FPS (I'm pretty sure about that), 10-year-olds SCREAMING into their mic every time they die, boosting for killstreaks (yes, it's all about the killstreaks), etc.

1) There are two-three overpowered weapons out of the what? 20-30 guns?
2) Not everyone enjoys running around a map for ten minutes to get one kill.
3) That's on every FPS game.
4) Wrong. Most of them do it for their k/d/r, and it happens on BF3 as well.
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1) There are two-three overpowered weapons out of the what? 20-30 guns?
2) Not everyone enjoys running around a map for ten minutes to get one kill.
3) That's on every FPS game.
4) Wrong. Most of them do it for their k/d/r, and it happens on BF3 as well.
That was my *cough*opinion*cough*

-Stephen
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On battlefield, you can fly a plane. But I like the fist person shooter on Call of Duty.

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I like Battlefield 3 and This is one of mine favorite game ever...

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GhostOfMatrix
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That was my *cough*opinion*cough*

"Labeling this as my opinion means it can't be wrong and they can't talk back"
Highfire
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1) There are two-three overpowered weapons out of the what? 20-30 guns?

There are select weapons that are used or known as the most powerful / useful, whereas many others are completely ignored. A good competitive game (which is what CoD tries to represent) would have all aspects of the game, including the weapons, being closely related to the metagame.

2) Not everyone enjoys running around a map for ten minutes to get one kill.

Not everyone enjoys seeing a muppet miss the car or decide to spawn at the main base. From my experience (as an above-average player which quite frankly just means I'm not dumb) you can always spawn close enough to the battle to keep the entertainment well sustained but far enough to know you are safe.

3) That's on every FPS game.

Quake.
Unreal Tournament.
Sorry, what?

4) Wrong. Most of them do it for their k/d/r, and it happens on BF3 as well.

You actually can't get good points on BF3 from just boosting like that. Then you need to consider that K/D is not even respected on BF3 because I can easily be the best player on my team when I'm 3/17. Why? Maybe I'm a Medic, sustaining my allies and letting them do the direct combat.

Battlefield boosters are even more idiotic than Call of Duty boosters, even though I've discovered none and none have been indicated to me.

Labeling this as my opinion means it can't be wrong and they can't talk back

Of course you can.
But so can I. <3

- H
GhostOfMatrix
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There are select weapons that are used or known as the most powerful / useful, whereas many others are completely ignored. A good competitive game (which is what CoD tries to represent) would have all aspects of the game, including the weapons, being closely related to the metagame.

From my experience all guns on CoD are used by many people, except for some of the pistols which I rarely see because the machine pistols make them irrelevant unless you want the commando pro knife lunge that the akimbo usp .45s offer.
Not everyone enjoys seeing a muppet miss the car or decide to spawn at the main base. From my experience (as an above-average player which quite frankly just means I'm not dumb) you can always spawn close enough to the battle to keep the entertainment well sustained but far enough to know you are safe.

I was referring to BF3's team deathmatch mode, where the spawns were random and you had to run quite a lot just to find one person, or a group of campers.
Quake.
Unreal Tournament.
Sorry, what?

I'm sure there have been ten year olds or people generally raging over the game because they died. Or if it didn't have mics then okay, I don't see how that's relevant. I was referring to games that you could talk to others over mics.
You actually can't get good points on BF3 from just boosting like that. Then you need to consider that K/D is not even respected on BF3 because I can easily be the best player on my team when I'm 3/17. Why? Maybe I'm a Medic, sustaining my allies and letting them do the direct combat.

My point is that people can still boost on BF3 and that people still care about those numbers on that game.
Of course you can.
But so can I. <3

That was directed at Stephen's post, hence the quotes.
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im like both.
but, if ure the guy that only cares about "deathmatch" style, no team work and stuff... yeah, CoD is better.
but if u want large maps, lots of players, almost obligatory team work to win, BF3 is your game.
so i think i prefer bf3 because of the team work.

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WTF! Battlefield has a terrible camapaign and you need to have an american account to play online (I'm brazilian).

CoD MW3 is way better! Has spec ops, Survival, Mutiplayer and a great campaign.

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I was referring to games that you could talk to others over mics.

Rage will occur whether or not you can direct it to the person who killed you or not. Quake and Unreal Tournament are difficult games that require good aim. It's years old (most of them) which means only the veteran players remain and the chances of them raging is close to nil.

From my experience all guns on CoD are used by many people, except for some of the pistols which I rarely see because the machine pistols make them irrelevant unless you want the commando pro knife lunge that the akimbo usp .45s offer.

UMP45, Intervention (or the Barrett. 50cal) and etc in MW2 are examples of weapons too vastly used. Compare it to LMGs, they're rarely used at best. Then consider that what you said in itself could be used as an argument.

I was referring to BF3's team deathmatch mode, where the spawns were random and you had to run quite a lot just to find one person, or a group of campers.

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Battlefield is not kill based, that should be apparent by... what? 50% of the things you carry? Is the Mortar for kills? It's for suppression and consistency. Are rockets? No, they're for eliminating armored threats and aircraft (and for some other colorful uses).

Battlefield at its core has been PTFO (Play the ******* Objective), apparent in the prequel Battlefield 2 -- no Team Deathmatch, I believe it was only Conquest, actually.

Does that mean I disagree with you? I don't know, I've not played TDM. FPSs need more meat to them than their primary point, but they ought to be addressed. In the name of the thread I'll point out the same behavior in CoD. Zombies -- that's not shooting, that is strategy. Spec Ops? Same thing. The only thing that came close was MW3s system that wasn't nearly as predictable.

The others mentioned are simply theorycraft and strategy.

I've not much an issue with this as long as they make sure it's alright. In terms of BF3 I'm nowhere near worried about TDM. Infact I find it VERY difficult to make it a useful game mode because half of your items are ineffective.

My point is that people can still boost on BF3 and that people still care about those numbers on that game.

Two people boosting is a slow way of getting points, in comparison to other methods. Maybe if you have a guy reviving. At either point -- who the hell cares? If anything the boosting is less harmful than CoD's because hey, you have bigger teams.
Both is going to be filled with idiocy. Can there be doubt?

Also, for a little bit on Battlefield as a series, Battlefield 2 has a dedicated playerbase (still) that doesn't consist of that much stupidity as they're gone. Same reasons for Quake and Unreal in a way.

Call of Duty 4 can be portrayed in a FAMILIAR way. The competitive mod (ProMod, there are variants) can help ensure a strong eSport and it still runs today. Not that big, sure, but nonetheless it's there. However, my brother is a pre-invite at this point if I remember right, and the discussions I hear him having sounds like it's utterly stupid.

I have different philosophies on how professional gaming should work. Quite frankly, if my brother can get through to "that level" when he thinks that having "chance" in professional games is a good thing (pretty much contradicting the entire point), then I can't see how others are too much better.

Of course, I dare not generalize. It would be like me showing you EGIdrA (which is an acronym for I rAGEd). Don't know him?

Used to have anger / personality issues when playing Starcraft II, was notorious for "bad manner" and calling the game imbalanced, effectively. He's cleaned up a hell of a lot now, but him 6 months ago would be a great example.

That was directed at Stephen's post, hence the quotes.

I know.

WTF! Battlefield has a terrible camapaign and you need to have an american account to play online (I'm brazilian).

BF3 Campaign? TERRIBLE. Yes.

CoD Campaign? 4 Hours.
That and consider how poorly made MW2's story was. MW3 has no real story with MW2 being made of utter stupidity.

Which one beats in terms of campaign?
I'll go for neither. I find them both equally awful. Because anything worse still isn't worth mentioning.

That and what you said about CoD is your point, not your explanation.

Here's mine for MW2.
Ultranationalist terrorist raids ultranationalist airport with American to cause a war between ultranationalist country and America. Making what are effectively his own allies lose their lives for little to no good reason.
His other crimes (human trafficking) and such I can understand. Funds right? But really? What the heck was that about?

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i say cod, not only because i am a die hard fan boy. i like the fact of not having helicopters to fly in and such. its too unrealistic. i generally do not like vehicles because it laves little chance for the guys running of the ground. i like the older cod(cod 5 i think) where you could get in tanks and such, but that it. also for battlefield, the airplane controls are strange, and i really dont like the look the like of the gillie suits.... too furry :P i prefer more action and enjoy to crush people with my killstreaks. also, quickscoping with meh friends in private matches in fun too. their for, cod gets my vote.

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UMP45, Intervention (or the Barrett. 50cal) and etc in MW2 are examples of weapons too vastly used. Compare it to LMGs, they're rarely used at best. Then consider that what you said in itself could be used as an argument.

My posts here are about MW3 and BF3, not the previous ones. I don't care to talk about those because the OP mentioned BF3, which I think he wanted us to talk about the new CoD. And that's a given already, of course not many people will use the LMGs in any CoD game; they slow you down a lot, have a lot of recoil, and are usually terrible guns.
Battlefield is not kill based, that should be apparent by... what? 50% of the things you carry? Is the Mortar for kills? It's for suppression and consistency. Are rockets? No, they're for eliminating armored threats and aircraft (and for some other colorful uses).

Battlefield at its core has been PTFO (Play the ******* Objective), apparent in the prequel Battlefield 2 -- no Team Deathmatch, I believe it was only Conquest, actually.

BF3 is kill based (I know other modes don't require for you to kill, but it still stands that there are kill based modes in that game), because of team deathmatch and squad deathmatch, which require kills to win. I'm only talking about TDM in BF3 because I didn't enjoy the other game modes and you can't really compare those to CoD.
I know.

What were you trying to say, then?
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My posts here are about MW3 and BF3, not the previous ones.

Which do not serve the main subject.
The entire franchise of CoD has suffered a lot of poorness. Call of Duty 4 much less so due to the fact it had mods which opened up so much more options. Obscurity, Freeze Tag, Zombies, Zombies again (different types), another type of Zombies, ProMod, Pam4.
Let's not forget the maps.

I don't care to talk about those because the OP mentioned BF3, which I think he wanted us to talk about the new CoD.

The lack of specification in the title I'd say leaves it open. What is the point of comparing BF3 to MW3 alone? MW3 FMG9, the I.E.D, killstreaks and the new "awkward locations" that give you slight but very major advantages when engaging that are used more now that other tactics are more difficult due to map creation.

they slow you down a lot, have a lot of recoil, and are usually terrible guns.

So why have them in the first place? Don't put skin on the bone when all it covers is fat.

BF3 is kill based (I know other modes don't require for you to kill, but it still stands that there are kill based modes in that game), because of team deathmatch and squad deathmatch, which require kills to win.

Two game modes, of 6, do not constitute the game being kill based. The game mode? Sure. But it sounds like you expect to have the best when half of the items you carry are suitable in less direct ways that are much more difficult to use effectively in the two game modes.

I'm only talking about TDM in BF3 because I didn't enjoy the other game modes and you can't really compare those to CoD.

But we can compare the maps, the destruction, the addition of vehicles and everything else that makes them significantly different?

They're set in around the same time period for authenticity purposes. They're no more familiar than Battlefield and Halo.

I mean, really. BF3 is kill based? What tomfoolery is this? I already stated that it follows well from its prequel which was PTFO. The addition of TDM could be helped, sure, but as far as I'm concerned there are "counterbalances" towards CoD, that have also been stated.

This would be like me playing CoD7 Zombies and judging the game solely on that. Not an FPS - a strategy game in first person persepctive. Done.
Or MW2 Spec Ops
Or MW3 Survival.

Do not pick at the weaker points of a game in order to make a point, when the one you ought to be defending (in name of the thread) has worse ones.

What were you trying to say, then?

That I can carry out a point whether it originated from me on this thread or not. Effectively what I said in the first place.

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