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grebdews
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No, that is ridiculous.
You mess up in a plane, you go doun.
You mess up in a car, 7 people go down.
You mess up in a plane, you have 3,000 feet to catch yourself
You mess up in a car well...
Your engine fails in a plane, you glide to earth.
Your engine fails on earth you crash.
Anybody can get a licence, but a pilot's licence takes hours of flight time.
In a car, there is no control tower...

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zillacutz
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good call noname.... i have not done the math but if he is right about that i should have been dead years ago....

like i asked b4 ultimatetitan... where did you get your information?

FireflyIV
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see this link:-


1) You plaigarised the comment made on said discussion board which is against the rules here on AG (see Strop's stickied thread).

2) That was a post from someone on a discussion board, not exactly a reliable source. If you happen to think so, then your logic is seriously flawed.

ultimatetitan... I think you messed up somewhere with your math. There is not a 1/4 chance that there will be a fatality when you fly in an airplane! If those were the odds of ending up dead, then it would have been illegal to fly a long time ago!


50% of people who smoke will die, yet tobacco remains legal.

Royadin
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you mean die of the tobacco and cigarettes, not just normal death..

FireflyIV
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you mean die of the tobacco and cigarettes, not just normal death..


Yes, that's what I meant. 50% of people who smoke will due to the effects of smoking.
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An incident is any technical problem. I shall quote what one user has posted.

cadet, I totally disagree. For the following reasons;

Firstly, an "incident" means a technical issue, not necessarily an accident or crash. Planes have much more extensive safety and engineering checks than your average vehicle, this is a reason for the high number of "incidents". An "incident" equivalent for a vehicle would be a dead battery, flat tire, faulty door, etc etc etc. Not a fatal accident. I will give you one thing though, 99% of air crashes do have a 100% kill rate. However, air accidents are alot less frequent than automobile ones. And there are very few planes that are 30 years old and still operating.

Being a car occupant is second only to crossing the road as the most dangerous activity humans regularly participate in.

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm

large planes are more than 7 times safer than a car. 52 million to 1 chance of dying.



I have to say, he completely debunked the arguement. Not only that, but the person who posted the original statistics seems to be a moron for not looking at the statistics and asking himselg "hmmm, one in four planes have fatal issues, that does not make sense."

50% of people who smoke will die, yet tobacco remains legal.


The difference between airlines and smoking is that when an airplane crashes, people just die. When someone dies from smoking, it's over a span of many years.

Also, 100% of people who smoke will die. If only 50% died, then that would make smoking healthy.

But I digress, if 1 in 4 airplanes crash or cause a fatality of some form, then there would be a lot less people flying and I still know it would be illegal because thats, well, do you understand how many people 25% is?! Thats an incredibly high number! Trust me, there was most definately an error in that calculation!
CosmicCharlie
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see this link:-


are you serious? You got this from someone else's response on another online forum. Second, do you know what gullible means? not only are you one of the most gullible people I've ever seen, but it's also in the freaking name of the site.
FireflyIV
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The difference between airlines and smoking is that when an airplane crashes, people just die. When someone dies from smoking, it's over a span of many years.


Your previous statement was basing the legality of air travel on the percentage of people that supposedly die because of it. I was just making the point that products with higher fatality rates than 25% remain legal.

Also, 100% of people who smoke will die. If only 50% died, then that would make smoking healthy.


I adressed that in this post:

Yes, that's what I meant. 50% of people who smoke will due to the effects of smoking.


But yes I think we can all agree that the aforemention statistic is very, very wrong. Statistically, flying is actually the safest way to travel.



According to this site 1 in 11 million.
zillacutz
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ahh... thank you for realizing that a plane is in fact statistically safer than a car... and yes 100% of people who smoke and do not stop will die

Graham
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plane = more mass[more fuel], few escapes from accident, high alititude, high speed
car = overwhelming population[more human mistakes], wreckless people, running from the law [population]

gotta give to car just cause about every family owns 1

HeavyFree
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Well, everyone has a car, and planes don't crash that often, Plane. Drunk drives, crazy people, just plain accidents all factor into a car. Planes are thoroughly checked and have all these routes and times played out specifically.

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Cars in general, kill more then planes. Though if aerial flight overtook automobiles in usage, we could see increases in fatalities. When comparing single incidents, planes kill more than cars.

grebdews
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there are more cars so cars are deadlier

grebdews
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grebdews
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see my point

firetail_madness
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Only thinking about yourself makes a plane more dangerous, as if a plane crashes 99% chance is your a goner.

A car, people can go driving cars for 50 years and nothing happens to them. And if it does crash, there's maybe a 50% chance you'll make it (depending on the seriousness of the crash), but since there are so many more car than plane crashes, overall a car is more dangerous.

Sebi
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Statistic shows that cars are more dangerous. The chance to die in a plane crash is as low as the chance that if you are standing near to a house a brick falls at your head and you die!!!!

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