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Qwerty001
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What is your interpretation of it?

And do "happy pills" contain THC?

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sourwhatup2
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Just because someone smokes pot doesn't make them a hippie. I would certainly not call Bob Marley a hippie.


I agree with you.. >.<
tennisman24
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Just because someone smokes pot doesn't make them a hippie. I would certainly not call Bob Marley a hippie.


Thank You!!! You took the words right out of my mouth. He is not a hippie. Lil Wayne smokes pot all day. Is he a hippie?
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Just because someone smokes pot doesn't make them a hippie. I would certainly not call Bob Marley a hippie.


Agreed. If you're a hippie it's because of a set of beliefs, not because you smoke weed. That's just something that they're known for doing.
steevo15
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Peasant

Were hippies ever "cool"? xD


Um yeah, in the 60's. In my opinion, they still are too. They have a cool carefree attitude, and they aren't as*holes like like most other groups of people. Yeah, they smoke pot, but since when does that make someone a bad person? I bet that if it wasn't illegal, half of you people who are so against it, wouldn't be.
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I bet that if it wasn't illegal, half of you people who are so against it, wouldn't be.


No, we would be even more against it. We would want it illegalized again.
steevo15
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No, we would be even more against it. We would want it illegalized again.


Bull. Do you even know why you are against pot? I bet you couldn't come up with 5 legitimate arguments.

If you are so against pot, why aren't you against cigarettes and alchohol, which are even more dangerous.
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erm... lets see. You are claiming that alcohal and cigarettes are better for a person than weed. Yet, if you drink to much beer, you get alcohal poisoning and need your stomach pumped, or you could potentiallu die. Cigarettes, if you smoke too much for too lonh you can get cancer and potentially die. But if you smoke weed too much, you're vision and hearing get distorted, and then you fall asleep. If you smoke it your entire life, you just build up a resistance to it.

So your organs just failed, heres whats running through your mind:
"oh shi-!"
Now you're stressed, causing other problems to occur. And you're passing out into an alcohal enduced coma, aka, passed out from alcohal poisoning. You now aren't thinking at all. Your life is in the hands of those around you, who are just as hammered as you.

Yeah, being drunk isn't stable by the way. It gives you a buzz, just as cigarettes do. So maybe you can think a little more clear, but guess what, you sure wont be living as long.


The reason I said being high is bad because people piss me off when they're high. I find it infuriating. And for me, who has already been diagnosed with depression and anxiety smoking any weed at all would be bad for me. Pot can cause mental illness. So yeah, on the other hand alcohol helps you forget about bullshit and cigarettes calm me down.
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The reason I said being high is bad because people piss me off when they're high.


Since when is a high person more annoying than someone who is absolutely drunk? I'd say that they are both equally annoying.

Pot can cause mental illness.


Can you give me a source as to where you found that information?

So yeah, on the other hand alcohol helps you forget about bull****


The effects of pot affect your short term memory so that you don't really remember much that happens while you are high.
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The reason I said being high is bad because people piss me off when they're high. I find it infuriating. And for me, who has already been diagnosed with depression and anxiety smoking any weed at all would be bad for me. Pot can cause mental illness. So yeah, on the other hand alcohol helps you forget about bull**** and cigarettes calm me down.


Weed effects everyone differently, but it's proven that it can be quite relaxing. Cigarettes may calm you down, but they become addicting to the point where you will start needing them to calm down. Weed will help you calm down, but it won't addict you unless you smoke weed for a long time.

And beer does not help you forget anything prior to getting drunk. If you want to temporarilly forget your troubles, weed will have the same effect as beer when it comes to short term memory loss.
Xavier1
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Can you give me a source as to where you found that information?

There you go. But also, my ex girlfriend has depression, and when she started smoking more and more pot it got worse and worse and she also has phsycosis now..
The effects of pot affect your short term memory so that you don't really remember much that happens while you are high.

I mean when you're sad you get smashed and it's easier to deal with. Forget was a bad word. More like, don't care.
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A 2007 meta-analysis estimated that cannabis use is statistically associated with a dose-dependent increase in risk of development of psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia.

According to your source, a meta-analysis was performed to come to the conclusion that smoking pot leads to schizophrenia.

But after looking futher into what a meta-analysis is, I'm not convinced that it is a very reliable method

[quote]A weakness of the method is that sources of bias are not controlled by the method. A good meta-analysis of badly designed studies will still result in bad statistics.


Because cannabis is such a controversial topic, the study could be easily swayed against cannabis due to a bias from the party conducting the study.
steevo15
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Apologies for my messy quoting work, let me repost what I intended to

A 2007 meta-analysis estimated that cannabis use is statistically associated with a dose-dependent increase in risk of development of psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia.


According to your source, a meta-analysis was performed to come to the conclusion that smoking pot leads to schizophrenia.

A weakness of the method is that sources of bias are not controlled by the method. A good meta-analysis of badly designed studies will still result in bad statistics.


Because cannabis is such a controversial topic, the study could be easily swayed against cannabis due to a bias from the party conducting the study.
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I know that but I've seen it. If you have a history of mental illness it can happen. It just depends on the person. It's like how some smokers die of cancer at like 40 but then some smokers die in their 90s. Some people are effected by it and soem are. But yeah, no to mention how fried people get when they do too much of anything, which I've also seen many many times.

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I know that but I've seen it. If you have a history of mental illness it can happen.


If you have a history of mental illness in your family and you become mentally ill after smoking weed, chances are pretty good that you became ill due to the history, not the marijuana!

Also, it has been proven that tobacco causes cancer. Some people are effected easier and more than others. Of course, this is not true with marijuana and causing schitzophrenia. Schitzophrenia is a genetic disorder.

So far, canabis has been abused in statistics. Biased people will twist words around to make canabis out to be worse than it really is. You have to be carefull with what statistics you read. I remember this one "teen help" website posted that men may experience an increase in breast size from smoking weed. I did my research and I know a lot of people who smoked weed. None of them had big man boobs except the fat ones... but they were fat.

Statistics are always being manipulated, which causes myths to enter into the world.
Xavier1
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Okay, what I am saying is I have seen friends getting better and then when they start using weed they have started developing new illnesses and their mental state has declined alot faster. The thing with cigarettes was my point. It gets some people faster than others. In the same way weed gets some people and not others. No matter how biased people say studies are that lean towards that I've seen it.

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