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pabloide
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Nintendo is a good company of games, and it has awesome games, but, why people dosnt follow it? because the graphics and the animations!

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Kasic
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nintendo is lame because they are recycling mario and sonic games constantly,


Every game series that is successful gets recycled. What CoD number are we on now...7? What about Halo...6?
numino
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Peasant

Every game series that is successful gets recycled. What CoD number are we on now...7? What about Halo...6?


ur under the impression am into that trivial crap, wat i was referring to was the constant barrage of mario and sonic games, wich are mor 15 years old, i mean come on giv it a rest nintendo
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ur under the impression am into that trivial crap,


I thought no such thing, although it would not be a unfair assumption due to the mass amount of people who like those two game series.

wat i was referring to was the constant barrage of mario and sonic games,


I know.

wich are mor 15 years old,


Does it matter how old they are?

i mean come on giv it a rest nintendo


If people like Mario and Sonic, why should Nintendo stop making the games? If people buy the games they make money, if they make more Mario/Sonic games, they make more money. It's a business. Just because -you- don't like/are tired of Mario and Sonic does not mean that Nintendo should stop making those games.
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wich are mor 15 years old,

Does it matter how old they are?


as a matter of fact it actually does, nintendo used to be known for their creativity and innovative mechanics now they are just bunch of corporate leeches

i mean come on giv it a rest nintendo

If people like Mario and Sonic, why should Nintendo stop making the games? If people buy the games they make money, if they make more Mario/Sonic games, they make more money. It's a business. Just because -you- don't like/are tired of Mario and Sonic does not mean that Nintendo should stop making those games.


there is no originality or creativity in their games apart from their motion sensor crap, with the other consoles there are actually good games with well thought-out stories and gameplay, i seriously doubt nintendo cood ever pull off a MGS, FF, POP, DMC, Bioshock, etc. these games actually require thought of an adult not friggin toddler!!
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ur under the impression am into that trivial crap,

I thought no such thing, although it would not be a unfair assumption due to the mass amount of people who like those two game series


and yes that is a very heinous and insulting assumption to make towards som1 of my stature
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and yes that is a very heinous and insulting assumption to make towards som1 of my stature


Excuse me if I laugh now. You're talking of stature and you barely spell 4 letter words right.

now they are just bunch of corporate leeches


Examples?

there is no originality or creativity in their games apart from their motion sensor crap,


Originality is dead. Everything can be linked to something else as similar.

with the other consoles there are actually good games with well thought-out stories and gameplay


Nintendo has these as well you know.

i seriously doubt nintendo cood ever pull off a MGS, FF, POP, DMC, Bioshock, etc. these games actually require thought of an adult not friggin toddler!!


Nintendo has produced games that set the standard in their genre. One of the best games of all time was The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of time. Almost every RPG to date is compared to it. They've also got a very large following for the Super Smash Bros series, and the Metroid Prime console series.

Also keep in mind, Nintendo's intended audience is mostly kids. You're not going to get some super-graphic bloody massacre type of random shooter war game because that's not the type of game that they produce.
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ur under the impression am into that trivial crap, wat i was referring to was the constant barrage of mario and sonic games, wich are mor 15 years old, i mean come on giv it a rest nintendo


SONIC ISN'T NINTENDO YOU UNINFORMED SIMPLETON.

#1 Bad Graphics.


Graphics have no sway in how good a game is. I recently had some of the most fun in a game ever playing Super Mario Party 2 on the N64, where everything was A RECTANGLE.

#2 Sequels are just an expansion with 1 new thing all the time.


There's a difference between what games like Gears of War and Call of Duty do and what Nintendo and Halo games do. Gears and Call of Duty use this technique you speak of, a sequel that can be seen as an expansion pack with one new thing (MW3-Survival; Gears 3-Horde was "revamped&quot.

Nintendo and Halo have more of a "Bag of Tricks" method to their games, they have key elements of their games that work, then fill in the rest with really cool new gameplay features and elements that make the overall product better. The Legend of Zelda series is an excellent example of this.

#3 They make good games look bad example COD.


This is an example more suited for a pro-Nintendo guy, but whatever, I'll run with it and insult your grammar. Zelda, Pokemon, Metroid (save Other M), and Mario are all such pure classics and, when released, are some of the best first-party games out there, that yes, they make mediocre shooters like Call of Duty, Homefront, Gears of War, and Medal of Honor 2010 look like absolute fecalmatter.

#4 they got Monster Hunter Tri exclusively.


That's just a clever business move. And what's wrong with exclusivity exactly?

#5 too many products are rushed.


You know I can't make you seem like a dunderhead unless you actually give some examples in your insolent accusations. Otherwise you're just doing my job for me.


PS: also take into consideration does any one brag about their WII now a-days all people talk about is PS3 & XBOX360 In gaming quality and Graphics they beat Nintendo.


This is true. Skyrim doesn't come out on the Wii, nor does any of the other four GOTY nominees, Portal 2, Uncharted 3, Arkham City, Skyward Swo- wait. Nope.

Look, I've already said Graphics are just a good coat of paint. A Bike can be as shiny as possible but it's only as good as the ride, not the looks. Your there to play the excellent gameplay and indulge in the story, not look at graphics (however if a game can deliver on both gameplay and graphics a la Crysis than hallelujah to them).

Back to Zelda. There really are only two possible Game of the Years for 2011, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, a game only for those modern consoles you lavish over, and The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, a game only for the Wii and uses the motion controls of the Wii to the best of its abilities. I've played both and I can tell you, it's a hard pick for me to decide which is better.

You have some legitimacy to your points, Graphics the PS3 and 360 have the Wii beat, but that's like saying that your toes are a different shape of semi-ellipses than mine. Gameplay wise, yeah, the 360 and PS3 get a consistent flow of C+ to A+ games, but the Wii's first party titles are always (save Other M) A+. Galaxy, Epic Yarn, Skyward Sword, if it has a Nintendo First Party brand on it, then it's a guaranteed Diamond (again, SAVE OTHER M).


there is no originality in that console


PS3: In 2006... PS2 IN HD! And Free Online!
360: In 2005... Xbox in HD! And $5 per month Online! And Teh Haloz!
Wii: In 2006... A console based purely around motion controls! And Teh Zeldaz!

Originality? Goes to Wii. Doesn't carry much weight, but please, know what you're talking about.

Every game series that is successful gets recycled. What CoD number are we on now...7? What about Halo...6?


Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 is the EIGHTH game in the series (removing spin-offs)

Halo 4 will be the FIFTH mainstream Halo game (Reach included, ODST and Wars excluded)

Now, do tell, if you say that "Every game series that is successful gets recycled", then how do you explain Skyrim, Zelda, Battlefield, Total War, or Warcraft, who went from RTS to MMO?

ur under the impression am into that trivial crap,


Back to this bit, why the devil are you inferring that two of the most influential games in Video Game History are trivial? Halo Combat Evolved changed the First-Person Shooter forever and put console FPS' on the map. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare changed the way FPS mechanics have worked for FOUR YEARS now.

Trivial? Far From it.

Just so you guys understand where I'm coming from, I'm a mainly 360 gamer with an appreciation for both the Wii and the PS3. If I'm not playing teh Haloz or teh Catherinez then I'm on my PC playing indie games or Total War. The only Wii games I have ever gotten into are Super Mario Galaxy and, currently, The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword. This paragraph is necessary because if history tells us anything, it's that anybody who defends Nintendo will be called a Nintendo fanboy. I am far from that, and just want to outline where I'm at in terms of my Games.

-Chillz is also known as a Connoisseur of Video Games... just to add in
numino
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and yes that is a very heinous and insulting assumption to make towards som1 of my stature

Excuse me if I laugh now. You're talking of stature and you barely spell 4 letter words right.


oh so your arrogant piece of crap, makes sense from the way you express yourself also this is online not a bloody punctuation and grammar test in school you filthy, mendacious gangrel!

now they are just bunch of corporate leeches

Examples?


how the hell am i supposed to give examples of this, oh wait i can, they're only directed at one type of audience, the type that doesn't know how to complain making them a fail-safe group thus making nintendo a corporate leech

[/quote]there is no originality or creativity in their games apart from their motion sensor crap,

Originality is dead. Everything can be linked to something else as similar.


so your telling me MGS is unoriginal, DMC, POP, every FF made (btw without which your precious Zelda would never hav came to fruition), Bioshock (probably one of the most original stories out there), etc.

with the other consoles there are actually good games with well thought-out stories and gameplay

Nintendo has these as well you know.


why don't you name a few then...

Also keep in mind, Nintendo's intended audience is mostly kids. You're not going to get some super-graphic bloody massacre type of random shooter war game because that's not the type of game that they produce.[quote]

like i said earlier, it's easy to make a game for children but for adults its a challenge and more rewarding, also maybe nintendo just isn't capable of pulling off a such a feat.

I bid you good day sir!
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Nomad

Also keep in mind, Nintendo's intended audience is mostly kids. You're not going to get some super-graphic bloody massacre type of random shooter war game because that's not the type of game that they produce.


MadWorld. Yeah... that kinda came out.

Originality is dead. Everything can be linked to something else as similar.


Catherine.

oh so your arrogant piece of crap, makes sense from the way you express yourself also this is online not a bloody punctuation and grammar test in school you filthy, mendacious gangrel!


Let's just put it this way; proper use of punctuation and grammar in an online setting, a place where such things are a rarity indeed, can make your opinion's legitimacy strengthen ten-fold.

-Chillz
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Let's just put it this way; proper use of punctuation and grammar in an online setting, a place where such things are a rarity indeed, can make your opinion's legitimacy strengthen ten-fold.


yeah but it can also make you seem arrogant and boastful not to mention snob-ish

Also keep in mind, Nintendo's intended audience is mostly kids. You're not going to get some super-graphic bloody massacre type of random shooter war game because that's not the type of game that they produce.


dude that wan't my comment i got my last 3 paragraphs wrong way around, refer to kasic's comment for that bit
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Nomad

I wouldn't play a decent game with bad graphics


sooo... Minecraft is out of the question?

Nintendo had it's own succesful games (Mario, Sonic, Wii)


Look Dutchy, Sonic isn't Nintendo, the Wii Sports and Play games were minigame garbage, and your lack of mentioning Zelda or Kirby disturbs me.

-Chillz
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PS3: In 2006... PS2 IN HD! And Free Online!
360: In 2005... Xbox in HD! And $5 per month Online! And Teh Haloz!
Wii: In 2006... A console based purely around motion controls! And Teh Zeldaz!

Originality? Goes to Wii. Doesn't carry much weight, but please, know what you're talking about.


dude i was referring to the bloody games not the mechanics of the machine it's played, that's an entirely different argument, the games are unoriginal

ur under the impression am into that trivial crap,

Back to this bit, why the devil are you inferring that two of the most influential games in Video Game History are trivial? Halo Combat Evolved changed the First-Person Shooter forever and put console FPS' on the map. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare changed the way FPS mechanics have worked for FOUR YEARS now.


they are trivial, they're just the same game with a different story and guns, that is all, oh and the only reason COD is on the map is because of its multiplayer, no1 talks about its campaign, now do they
Kasic
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oh so your arrogant piece of crap, makes sense from the way you express yourself also this is online not a bloody punctuation and grammar test in school you filthy, mendacious gangrel!


My point is, you have no grounds to be speaking of stature when you're typing in l33t sp34k. I'm not arrogant at all, I'm using proper punctuation/grammar because one, that's just how I type, and two, I don't want to sound like someone who has no idea what they're talking about.

dude i was referring to the bloody games not the mechanics of the machine it's played, that's an entirely different argument, the games are unoriginal


And what exactly is unoriginal about Kirby, Zelda, Mario, Sonic, etc. Only in comparison to themselves are they unoriginal.

they are trivial, they're just the same game with a different story and guns, that is all, oh and the only reason COD is on the map is because of its multiplayer, no1 talks about its campaign, now do they


I have seen many people who talk about the campaign for MW3 and the others.
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oh so your arrogant piece of crap, makes sense from the way you express yourself also this is online not a bloody punctuation and grammar test in school you filthy, mendacious gangrel!


Besides for what Kasic said, it also makes it harder to read your posts.

"your arrogant piece of crap"

Reading that the way you wrote it doesn't get the idea i'm assuming you're trying to get across.

" yourself also "

Well wouldn't it be nice if you could actually tell us where 1 idea ends and another starts, usually this is done by periods.

You're writing makes it extremely difficult to actually understand what you're saying. If you don't think writing a legible sentence matters, then i'll take what you wrote literally, and say you didn't just insult Kasic, you insulted his dump.
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they are trivial, they're just the same game with a different story and guns, that is all, oh and the only reason COD is on the map is because of its multiplayer, no1 talks about its campaign, now do they


Halo is a far cry from samey-samey CoD, and your right in Call of Duty's ball park, but Halo innovates and changes every game, FireFight, Forge, theater, newer and more streamlined multiplayer components, the scale and scope of the community, Halo is always changhing. Far from Trivial.

I'm actually questioning if you know what trivial means, it means "small, unnoticeable". Call of Duty 4 is one of the most influential games of this generation, as stated above. It is definitely, again, far from Trivial.

And the Modern Warfare campaign is actually somewhat compelling, if a bit too Micheal Bay at moments. Captain Price Modern isn't as awesome as WW2 Price, but still, his tales are something worth experiencing, and the MW campaign is worth checking out.

dude i was referring to the bloody games


And this is where I start to question the weight of your words. You approach this topic like a child, when the big boys like HighFire and I use massive amounts of experience, logic, reason, and critical thinking to determine the quality, influence, and overall worth of a game, its developer, or its publisher. By just determining a sect of games as "bloody games", then you turn your shabbily supported argument into a fine layer of salt just waiting to be blown into the ether by the powerful voice of The Video Game Connoisseur, The Chillz Master.

-Chillz
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