soialist, i was speaking in present day american terms. 99% of racists, white supremacists, skins, ect. are all talk 1% of these idiots are dumb enough to murder
There is no history of oppression based on the white skin.
So we are supposed to be ashamed of being white? I can't have pride in my heritage because I'm white? I can't be proud of my ancestors, my ancient people, who were killed, kidnapped from their land, raped, and annexed, and tortured because their skin was white? I'm tired of being told I have to be ashamed of my skin. Because I'm not. I can't have pride in my race because I'm white so I must automatically be a racist. I can't have pride in my gender because they makes me a feminist and that's bad. What exactly did I do, that any of us did, to have to feel ashamed about?
Saying that white supremacists are entitled to free speech is completely bankrupt, and means that you are endorsing not just racist bigotry and scapegoating, but that you actually endorse all that Hitler and the Nazis stand for, all that the KKK and the lynch mobs stand for.
Bull. I value free speech. Because in the end if you don't stand up for it, it might not be there for you to use. And I would give equal time to any white supremacist, black supremacist, muslim extremist, christian extremist or any other crazy that wanted to speak. Words only have power if you listen. So let the zealots talk. It's just talk and there are enough intelligent people out there who know not to listen.
A) What the hell is there to be proud about being white? I for one am not proud of the fact that my grandfather was a slave-owning racist. You don't have to be ashamed, but white pride is something inherently elitist because the racism that has been used throughout the 19th and 20th centuries placed white skin above everything else.
B) racism and white supremacy is not just talk. These are the people that don't just talk about getting rid of jews, blacks, palestinians and other minorities, but physically do it through lynch mobs and illegal settlements etc. Saying they have a right to do so is endorsing murder and genocide, because the language they use directly contributes to their actions.
And why the hell is feminism bad? last time i checked, sexism was still rife in our society and being proud to be a woman is a positive thing, taking a stand against this oppression. There should be more feminists so that at least all the sexist stereotypes and language are at least challenged if not obliterated
What the hell is there to be proud about being white? I for one am not proud of the fact that my grandfather was a slave-owning racist. You don't have to be ashamed, but white pride is something inherently elitist because the racism that has been used throughout the 19th and 20th centuries placed white skin above everything else.
My ancestors never owned slaves. And in fact when they got to America is was worse to be Irish then to be anything else. They were forced into slums. First slums in the country, the Irish in Boston. Nobody gave a crap if they were white. They were hated and despised just the same. I'm quite proud of my heritage thank you. My ancestors went through massive shit in Ireland and Scotland by the English. Slavery, killing, torture, being taken off their land, having their land stolen. Just because one of your family was a serial killer or something doesn't mean you hate your entire family.
And newslash, there was slavery in Africa long before the whites got there. Some of the tribal chiefs actively helped the whites in obtaining slaves. So because some blacks were slave owners and in fact did worse by enslaving their own people should they be ashamed of being black?
racism and white supremacy is not just talk. These are the people that don't just talk about getting rid of jews, blacks, palestinians and other minorities, but physically do it through lynch mobs and illegal settlements etc. Saying they have a right to do so is endorsing murder and genocide, because the language they use directly contributes to their actions.
People have a right to talk. Once again, if you don't defend the freedom of SPEECH then you don't deserve the right to use it. You can't place limits on speech, it is a fundamental right. Would you want someone taking what say and telling you to shut it because you might be inciting someone somewhere to violence? There is a difference between speech and action. When we start limiting free speech then we open the door to everyone losing it, not just the people you deem deserving. When, and only when, they move into action is the time to stop them. The majority of people talk and talk but never do thing.
My "REAL" Dad's side of the family is White Power and all that... another peice of it is Gangster, Like Cripz and Bloodz. My other peice of the family is cop's... Like my brother in law, he's a cop... so yeah, our family is weird...
Well, what about Black Power, Eh? They're probably worse...
Well, Socialist, Michael Jackson was able to go white, perhaps you can go black?
Don't forget. Germany was only ONE nation. Do you know how many other nations are in Europe? colonial America was only ONE nation. A small and weak one at that.
I don't get why you don't take pride in being white. As some people would say, "You is what you is." Take pride in that.
[quote]Well, what about Black Power, Eh? They're probably worse...
How the hell is black power any worse? The Black Panthers at least had a reason- white people have suppresses them for, seemingly, no reason at all for hundreds of years, nonstop. So, KILL WHITEY. I fail to see how its any worse. If anything, its the same. Your just saying that because your fathers a racist bigot.[/quote]
I reason it is worse is because being suppressed like that, they should know better. They should know that all people are equal.
JesusPriest, please stop using ad hominem arguments, appeals to pity, and appeals to inexperience. They do not help further your position. The Black Panthers were heavily oppressed, but they did their share of wrong things, as did the government against them. Two wrongs do not make a right.
