Who is the worst brawl chatacter, i want to know i will declare the worst character in 2 hours after the last person I think it is Olimar, i thinks thats how u spell it.
jigglypuff and olimar, he is just such an idiot with his plants...
Ugh, blasphemy! How dare you insult pikmins!? Olimar's actually pretty good to me; his smashes are quick and effective - depending on the pikmin thrown.
Objectibely, it'd have to be the one with worst programming, arbitrarily, I'd go with slow characters like donkey kong, Dedede, Bowser and Ganondorf, for most of the reason I already explained. It's nice to play with powerful characters when you start, but when you reach a certain level of brawlship, you realize that slow characters are most useless because pros will always have ease at anticipating and doding them. Though talent can't be evaluated accurately, I've never lost to someone using slow characters, even people that were seemingly of my level.
Of those you listed, only Dk is a good slow character. As for not losing to them because you can anticipate their attack, there's something very simple that you do with slow characters. Make it so they -can't- avoid your hit.
Of those you listed, only Dk is a good slow character. As for not losing to them because you can anticipate their attack, there's something very simple that you do with slow characters. Make it so they -can't- avoid your hit.
Easier said than done; when the smashes are slow, what you've left with a slow char is the quicker strikes like the ones done in mid-air, which can be anticipated by good enough players...When playing with no items whatsoever and no terrain advantage - we always play in fields like final destination, for the sake of seeing sheer skill - you've only your opponent to worry about. Thusly, it's hard make it so the hits can't be avoided at all. We've also this habbit of letting people come back on the platform rather than waiting at the edge to bash them...I guess it comes out of some sense of honor, who knows.
Also, I'm never taking special smashes in account when talking about a character's worth; I always play without items.
Also, I'm never taking special smashes in account when talking about a character's worth;
I'm not either.
when the smashes are slow
You don't use the smashes often.
we always play in fields like final destination, for the sake of seeing sheer skill - you've only your opponent to worry about. Thusly, it's hard make it so the hits can't be avoided at all.
Grabs are very important for slow characters, as is just their A attack.
We've also this habbit of letting people come back on the platform rather than waiting at the edge to bash them...
Most slow characters can't really edge guard because they lack the ability to go up high and recover slow from an attack, making it very easy to kill yourself if you try.
Reason A why I can't play with slow char; their inability to be proficient with smashes. You see, you're limiting their array of possible effective moves yourself, narrowing the course to follow to the A button and Grabs. If you've only that to expect, it's easier to be well prepared against them than facing someone who can use Grabs, air attacks, smashes and A button all well.
I see where you're getting at when you talk about moves that can't be escaped, i.e. Grabs, but you must first be *able* to proceed with the grab maneuver, which is quite much harder with a slow character.
You see, you're limiting their array of possible effective moves yourself, narrowing the course to follow to the A button and Grabs. If you've only that to expect, it's easier to be well prepared against them than facing someone who can use Grabs, air attacks, smashes and A button all well.
You still can use them, you just don't primarily use them. You wait for when they're open, not just swing them around because then you're open. With a fast character like Fox, who cares if you down smash quickly, it only takes half a second. With a character like Ike, it can take well over double that.
My point is, you have to pick your moves and be accurate with them to be proficient with slow characters; you can't just get away with button smashing towards the opponent and expect to really do more than occasionally hit them.
I find the worst to be Olimar. He has very low range, very low damage, and isn't particularly fast. In fact, he has to keep stopping to summon Pikmen in order to attack. If an opponent can keep him moving before he has a chance to re-summon them, it would be impossible for him to do any damage at all.
Olimar is quite agile actually. He's also a very small target. His attacks do decent damage, but he only has a few killing moves. As for stopping to pick pikmin, you stop for a very short amount of time, so unless they are right next to you, you can easily pick 2-3 and keep going. Olimar's only real disadvantage is how easy it is to edge-hog him. Other than that, he has fast smashes, good damage, good range, and the pikmin take hits (Plus, when kirby uses his final smash, Olimar can roll and enterally pluck pikmin to feed off of the items that come out of the pot while kirby is stuck watching the 20 hearts, 5 curries, star, bats and final smash come out of the pot )
My point is, you have to pick your moves and be accurate with them to be proficient with slow characters; you can't just get away with button smashing towards the opponent and expect to really do more than occasionally hit them.
I get your point; it's possible, but fastidious. That's the reason why I prefer balanced characters. Can't stand slowliness, and can't stand playing a character who becomes a cheap play because of its speed. My best characters are Pikachu, Marth and Mario.
You know, we should have a fight, you seem awfully well versed concerning super smash bros.
Lol, my friends and I have pikachu hunting tournaments. One of us is the Pikachu, and heavily abuses the down+b and down smash, while the rest of us are either Fox, Samus, or Link trying to kill it. Of course it's still a FFA, but, if Pikachu is near...it dies
You know, we should have a fight,
I was thinking the same thing too, although my Wi-fi isn't great, it's playable. My friend code for brawl is 2793-6277-5579
I'll be on for the next...2 1/2 hours from this post.
My best characters are Pikachu, Marth and Mario.
Hmm...I usually play on random so I don't know if I have a best, but, I normally win when i'm Ike, Rob, MetaKnight and Zelda.
Let's schedule something, I'm hard to come by on such short notice. I'd go right away, but my roommate is sleeping so I'm pretty much limited to my Pc.
Anytime I'm not working is fine by me, drop by on my profile and we'll talk about it.
Hey, it's past midnight?...Wow, I'm twenty today...
Thanks! I'll drink a bottle for you guys. May not be legal in the states, but here in Quebec the legal age is 18 *wink*. Anyhow, it's not like I had to wait until that age to drink... Back on topic.
and i really really really cant play with Olimar ._. i just cant do it. Oh well i play as the creepy angel pit cause im good with it
I just hate Pit, both when playing with him and against him. It's that darned spinning blade attack that can last forever; it can get pretty annoying if you're stuck in it. Reminds me of the Grapple grab/Mewtwo Ball combo...Ugh...
