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dudeguy45
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Am I the only one who misses the good 'ol MW2 days? I think it is honestly a better game, in all areas. (Except Zombies). Who agrees?

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2x4
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Yeah there is. Motion Sensor? C'mon.

Hallfrost00
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Well...
Where as Black Opshas zombies, it sucks. I like Modern Warfare 2 more, Black Ops was overall a better game.

Golial
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Steam Statistics, Peak Black Ops players for today, 53k, peak MW2 players for today, 43k.

Crazy numbers considering all the hype Black Ops got before launch and how it was supposed to be the next game in line of the Call of Duty series. Looks like a lot of people didn't bother switching over.

For that matter, while all these numbers are PC only, Counter Strike: Source trounced both of them at 82k peak players on at one time today.

theone99
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There is a mute button.
MW2 is more enjoyable and fun then black ops multiplayer. The map scenario is better. All the weapons are better. And the players are better. On black ops you get the worst players and just campers on every match


MW2 is not enjoyable. When I played i nearly went through a couple of controllers, as did my friends and a whole bunch of people i met online. on Black Ops, however, I have not gotten mad at the game whatsoever, and neither have my friends.

When you say "all the weapons are better" you mean "all the weapons are automatic, have no shake, have large clips, and take 2 bullets to kill you" I like the Black Ops players way better, there are people who actually can carry on a conversation with in a lobby.
And if you're gonna complain about the "worst players", there is, as always, a mute button

Last. Campers. People don't regularly camp on this game unless you're playing a game based mode in which they are DEFENDERS. I'm not sure about you, but if i'm on the defensive side, i'm not gonna run away from the objective and go for kills. Black Ops has no "ultimate killer" killstreaks like MW2 had, like the AC-130, and of course, the Tactical Nuke. So even on say, Team Deathmatch, people would camp HARD, why? to get one of those "ultimate killstreaks"
And also, Black Ops has an actually, FUN, extra-game mode, Zombies and Combat Training. MW2 on the other hand? Oh what fun im gonna have in Spec Ops. Honestly, the only ones i had fun in were the ones from CoD4, and the Sniper Fi missions, which to me, is EXTREMELY sad. Black Ops brings WAY more to the table than multi-player, they also bring fun into the game and an actual GREAT storyline.
And that's why :
BLACK OPS>MW2
Highfire
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I care not for a good score.

Given the case that you
I would play the online people would just camp in certain places and just sit there for the whole match until they would die.

I would see whomever says "I care not for a good score" someone who doesn't get one.

Just what I see when I go on MW2.

The map scenario is better.

Oh you mean the easily abused and glitched maps that everyone camps in for kills?
Raiiight.

All the weapons are better.

True, yeah, two kills. Makes you do NOTHING but aim in the general area.
Congrats! The weapon is better, but you are now worse.

And the players are better.

Can't have it both ways, dude.

No seriously you can't.

On black ops you get the worst players and just campers on every match.

Is that because they spray and actually get you (even with worse weapons) or because you can't look around a corner with faster reaction to the guy hiding behind it?

Show me a great score using something simple on both MW2 and Black Ops made by you :>

Yes I play for fun btw, but I rarely play and I get better than a 1:1 K/D ratio. People who actually devote to these games so much I view as quite sad, tbh.
Especially with the community they play with, puts a real bad "Socializing" atmosphere for your parents.

Yeah.

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duanewheeler
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black ops failed i rly preffer mw2

GhostOfMatrix
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I would see whomever says "I care not for a good score" someone who doesn't get one.

I am good at the game.
I just don't care if I win or not in the game. I play it for enjoyment. I don't play for camping in certain spots trying to improve useless stats.
Just because I don't care about a good score doesn't mean I'm bad at the game. It just means that I don't devote my life to trying to become a master at a video game. I just play for fun. I'm actually pretty good at the game. But there are those people that are far more better.

Oh you mean the easily abused and glitched maps that everyone camps in for kills?
Raiiight.

Not as many campers in MW2 as there are in Black ops.
I'm talking about the scene and how the map is made.
Glitched? I've never played anyone that 'glitches' any of the maps.


Is that because they spray and actually get you (even with worse weapons) or because you can't look around a corner with faster reaction to the guy hiding behind it?

Nope.
I'm talking about the little tards that hang out in a house or just stay on top of a building.
I don't have a problem with people killing me when I look around a corner. It just means that they have a better reaction time then me. I'm not bad at the game. I wouldn't say that I'm the best either. :P

True, yeah, two kills. Makes you do NOTHING but aim in the general area.
Congrats! The weapon is better, but you are now worse.

Cool story bro.
No.. I use all the weapons on both the games. But I find that the weapons on MW2 are superior.

People who actually devote to these games so much I view as quite sad

Yeah, I'm sure many people feel that way. I rarely play it as well. And whenever I do play I only play it for about half hour or so until I get bored with it.

Show me a great score using something simple on both MW2 and Black Ops made by you

I don't have a video camera to record myself playing a video game. ;P
Something simple? I'd say just choose a good weapon like the AK-47 or M-16 and just try to kill as many enemies as possible. But I'm sure you already knew that.
dudeguy45
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Guys... teh chopper gunner in Black Ops can make you wanna rage quit... and the maps are boring and no hiding places (does'nt mean campers)

As my friend said, " Everyone was about to jack off to Black Ops, until they played it."

Highfire
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Just because I don't care about a good score doesn't mean I'm bad at the game.

I didn't say that. I am just saying that from my personal experience, what I said is true.
I know it isn't true, I already said - from my experience, the same as you playing on Black Ops and meeting campers.

I don't play for camping in certain spots trying to improve useless stats.

So you agree it is more effective?
I take enjoyment in peoples open-suffering that is mostly due to their own bad personality, and the probability that I can beat them anyway.

But I find that the weapons on MW2 are superior.

Isn't that saying what I was saying?


If it takes less bullets, then it doesn't take as much skill. I remember playing Black Ops when it first came out, I would be in an open space, fighting against 2 people at the same time, I'd be standing with no cover, and I would still be able to pinpoint and kill them both before they killed (but they could severely injure) me.
Never could you find that in Modern Warfare 2. Never. :>

about half hour or so

I barely last a game playing it. I play StarCraft II and even the mods of them are (in my opinion) better quality than some CoD games.

AK-47 or M-16 and just try to kill as many enemies as possible.

Er... Which game? Doesn't matter tbh, because I often find that knifing (WITHOUT Commando btw) can get me a better score. If I did shoot, it would be with the Ballistic Knife or Sniper

I don't have a video camera to record myself playing a video game. ;P

:P Fair enough.
If you're going to play games, you mays well do it on a PC, really

PC has much more adaptability (being able to use the controller of an Xbox or PS3 is quite the pro) with not just controls but also game genres. RTS games cannot be properly played by an Xbox or PS3 (Because let's be honest, Halo Wars isn't your traditional RTS) and graphics can be enhanced far more.
In that case, if you do play Black Ops then you could put it on Theater.
It's a shame really since my Theaters are mostly near-hit Tomahawks, man... I hate my luck :<

I'm talking about the little tards that hang out in a house or just stay on top of a building.

Houses = Easy to defend.
Top of Buildings = Great strategicly offensive point.

I'm talking about the scene and how the map is made.

Hrmm. It's better done in my opinion. It's more urban which allows more campers, sure, but you just need to be prepared. The bad thing about MW2 is if you camp in a building, and you are a good player then you will choke off that point which would allow your team to virtually ambush the enemy through their own foothold since they have no escape.
Oh wait, my team on MW2 sucks :P
Nar but seriously, camping owns :>

Not as many campers in MW2 as there are in Black ops.

I've nothing against campers but I am sure MW2 players camp more

But, neglecting the whole "Camping" thing, MW2 is still quite terrible with "Overpowered weapons", including:
Spas-12 + Steady Aim (since many maps do have close range)
G18 Dual-wield
ACR / Scar-H (the recoil you suffer when one of those bullets hit you make it powerful enough as is)
UMP45 (I don't think this is overpowered however I find it the most powerful SMG)
Pro-Pipe

Pro-Pipe's do abyssmal damage to a player in Black Ops (I once seen a character with Flak Jacket suffer direct impact + the explosion and survive it, amazingly), making it more of a waste than anything.
I have not witnessed any weapon that is overpowered, please put forth a weapon you think is, because I cannot

Oh and Shotguns do significantly less damage, are more reliant on close-range and are a main weapon + the maps are evenly done tbh (with exception to a small few like Cracked), allowing good balancing around and evasion of these weapons.

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GhostOfMatrix
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So you agree it is more effective?

Of course camping is more effective. But that's just me. I don't like it. I'm more of a run around like a crazy person shooting and knifing people.
Er... Which game? Doesn't matter tbh, because I often find that knifing (WITHOUT Commando btw) can get me a better score.

I'll say it anyways. On MW2. And knifing. I like it more as well. I think it's more effective then bullets when you're running around like a psycho. And that's what I mostly do on the games.
If you're going to play games, you mays well do it on a PC

Laptop - slow processor and no mouse.
Houses = Easy to defend.
Top of Buildings = Great strategicly offensive point.

I know. And that's all fine when I'm playing my friends with just two player. But on multiplayer as stated before I like running around like a psychopath.
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Modern Warfare is better. Offline multiplayer is terrible. I like the maps in MW2 better than Black Ops.

GaMexxAddIcT
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i like mw2 much better because i like the graphics, maps, weapons,and game modes much better than black ops. its just my opinion that mw2 is better than black ops

Highfire
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I like running around like a psychopath.

Yes but you had also said
I'm talking about the little tards that hang out in a house or just stay on top of a building.

Er... Given the nice little noun in which you addressed them, I take it you don't like them?
Basically all I was saying was not to make a bad habit of hating on them (or simply hating them) because of their different (and realistically better imo :P ) playstyle

Laptop - slow processor and no mouse.

:<
Laptops are not for gaming, and I find it annoying that my mate plays a high-demand game (StarCraft II) on it that can often easily slow the entire game down for everyone else :/

it's more effective then bullets when you're running around like a psycho.

It is more effective, though I do find it more effective on Black Ops where you don't get struck at your spawn etc. Especially in Black Ops where it takes a multitude more bullets to kill you :O

I don't like it.

I don't like camping either, it's boring, and counterable (though it rarely gets countered :P ). I do, as you say, run around like a crazy psychopath knifing everyone in a 3 mile radius.
However in a game like Battlefield Bad Compan 2, I love camping as a sniper since it is more of a "legit" strategy. :O

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teh chopper gunner in Black Ops can make you wanna rage quit


Just make a "flyswatter" class with the M72 Law, or the Strela-3 its easy. and try and get ghost pro if it makes you mad, the killstreaks wont target you.
GhostOfMatrix
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Er... Given the nice little noun in which you addressed them, I take it you don't like them?
Basically all I was saying was not to make a bad habit of hating on them (or simply hating them) because of their different (and realistically better imo :P ) playstyle

I don't hate them. I just think that they can better use the game by moving around quite a bit and actually play instead of staying in one spot waiting for a passer-by then just kill them then resume to hide. It slows down the whole match when a bunch of people are doing it.
The aren't better. They just hide and wait for someone to walk by then kill them then go repeat the process with another individual.
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