If that's what the prison system should be about, then the death penalty should not be included. It clearly isn't a deterrent - if it was there wouldn't be people on death row. And it isn't a rehabilitation tool... for obvious reasons. So why do we have the death penalty? If it's to remove someone from society, then doesn't imprisonment do that?
Am lost, Moe. Rehabilitation can be used as a tool to stop others from commiting wrong deeds. So it could, after 10 years, affect someone. And the person could be watched and suspected.
How's it NOT a deterrent? You do bad ENOUGH you die. xP Therefor, people wouldn't go on to such horrid things. Also, Jail is a holding time, where you serve to essentially "ay off" all that you've done wrong. But, looking at it another way, if you've done so bad and theres no way of helping you out of your craze, maybe turning you into a person that could maybe live a few free years of his life in the open air.. if theres no way for a bad man to do that, and the persons done ALOT worse than the minimum expectations to get a life sentence, then, I'm sure, it will be decided on as death. It saves cash, it ensures peace in the society. So it ends up as a deterrent. How else to think to keep the law up? By letting them loose every 15 years? Heck, remove a murderer from society, watch him come back. It wont' be pretty.
Here is a simple thing to think about. If we were to keep murderers in prison to punish them, then why do we have people who will commit crimes for the sole purpose of going back to prison? Some people actualy like prison (you do not have to work, you get a free place to sleep, free food).
Sometimes we end up allowing more innocent people to get hurt/killed than we should just because we would rather bring some lunatic in alive and not dead. Evin if we do bring them in alive after they kill one person, throwing them in prison is realy not that much of a punishment.
Lets say that you end up killing someone. If you kill someone, I would safely asume that you not only hate the person you killed, but you hate how your life is going anyways. If you were to be pute in prison, were you would never have to look at the world around you again (the SAME world that you hate so much) and you only had to behave and you would be taken care of... wow you just won twice! You got to kill someone you hated and you do not have to pute up with the world no more!
Prison is not all that much of a punishment. Sure there are other down sides, but if you got in because you killed a man... those down sides are not much.
Armed, I consider rehabilitation to mean altering the behavior or desires of the person so they can be released back into society. Maybe we're using the same word two different ways? The way I'm using it, you can't rehabilitate someone who is dead. The deterrent thing is quite a speculation. The fact that we have people on death row, and people who have been executed seems to indicate that the death penalty doesn't serve that well as a deterrent. I think this is largely due to the fact that most people don't really think they're going to get caught when they commit a crime, so having a certain punishment as a deterrent seems to miss the point. But then we have to ask the question - what purpose does punishment really serve?
Kogan your right, i have read the book several times but not the film yet, but then it seems they get away completly free, in Clockwork Orange he kills several people aswell as numerouse rapes GBH armed robberys etc and all he gets is 2 and a half years then out
i feel that killing criminals is ok if what they did is very wrong. Now putting criminals on death row does cost more than putting them in prison for life but some people dont deserve to live
I'm guessing your right, when I planned to snatch the laptop from my sister so I could use it, I really figured I'd just sneak out and leave. Then she got all mad and was like "RAWR" o.o
Punishment serves as the reason to make sure someone doesn't do it again, showing its consequences. It seems Punishment can go up to death? Its safe to say to some that its "Just" to kill someone. I doubt we'd throw it down on death rows, though, I dought we have those. xP
Also, how can you trust a rehabiliated/changed behavior person whos apparently "Changed" to be a good person with different disires while knowing what he's done? If he's someone thats been a serial killer, someone that shot a high government official, it'd be hard to just say after 15 years. "Your free to go".
i think murderers should be executed.a life for a life.very simple but for other offences,like drugs smuggling,i know it damage other's health but,you do not directly kill someone.and if the economy's rich,i dun think anybody would resort to such crime.so i suggest a long term sentence.
Firstly, of all, I would like to say I've read all the posts in this thread. I am surprised at some misconceptions.
I find punishment a waste of time, money and a waste of life for many. Do you think said person would repent his sins after 20 years in a hell hole of murder and apathy? People make connections in jail, so they're as bad as they were when they came in, maybe even worse. I'm not saying not to punish them, I'm saying jail and death sentences don't help. Now since everyone is concerned financially, why not just sue them and put their extra spending on hold? That'll have them work for something and make the government gain money. I know it will be hard to achieve but thats my idea. Its based on a sense of morality. Many in this thread have the idea of "An eye for an eye". I find that barbaric and worst of all, uncivil. Did you know that, that saying, was encoded and first seen in the Code of Hammurabi? In Ancient Babylonia!? In other words, a long time ago We are in the present, not in the past. Many overestimate how much the cost is. How much many is being spent on the war for argument's sake? Then, we can still uphold that amount of money for sustaining prisons while making road and building projects? Think about that. Many say punishing is wrong, however, like me. Now, I have 2 faces (no, not in that way), one supporting and one despising. I support punishment because as a U.S. citizen you are entitled to many things, such as punishment for mislead actions. So, Capitol Punishment is just. You stay/came here, you have duties and risks too take. The same goes with false accusations. Even falsely accused (HORRIBLE, thing), you are entitled for punishment....and suing right after they find the real culprit.
Many in this thread have the idea of "An eye for an eye". I find that barbaric and worst of all, uncivil. Did you know that, that saying, was encoded and first seen in the Code of Hammurabi? In Ancient Babylonia!? In other words, a long time ago We are in the present, not in the past.
It was saying that revenge is uncivil. You were going by "Alife for a life". Am I correct? If so, you are going by "The Code of Hammurabi", a code written by an ancient Babylonian ruler, named Hammurabi. That was a long time ago and in that remark, shows how simplistic our government still is. That's a bad thing.
In simpler terms, your idea for "a life for a life", is outdated and contains many problems. Whats the punishment if you kill 3 people? Triple lifetime sentence in jail? 3 beheadings? There's something to think about.
hmm.. in fact u are quite right. still,i dun know the punishment for a massacre. i mean u must make payment for wateer you do right? you can't just take something from a shop and walk away.
