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thaboss
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i'm confused. i learned that pi never ends but then some people say that a Japanese team of researchers found the value of pi and that it has 1.3511 trillion digits. who is right??? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_pi_ever_end

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greg_greg
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pi is a mathematical term to represent the properties of a circle/oval/ pi is an irrational number with an infinite number of digits.

RegisterAccount
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Short answer: No it does not.

Long answer: In theory you could say that it ended at infinity, but infinity goes on forever. So you tell me?

greg_greg
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ill tell you, it doesnt. you just contradicted your self :

In theory you could say that it ended at infinity, but infinity goes on forever.
HahiHa
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I don't think this is contradicting, since infinity is by definition endless, so if you say it ends at infinity, you're saying it ends at endless, so basically it does not end ^^

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but if it never ends, how can you say it ends at infinity, like, it doesnt end, because end means it stops, when really, infinity cannot be stopped!

HahiHa
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It means it only stops when it reaches infinty, and since, you said it so well, infinity does not stop, it will never stop due to not being able to reach infinity.

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Peasant

so we cant say pi has an end, because it will never reach an end.

HahiHa
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Yes, we cannot say pi ends at *random point* since any point is definite, but we can say it ends at infinite because infinite is not a definite point. Saying it 'ends' at infinite is by definition saying it does not end.

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Peasant

okay, im willing to go on your side here... everyone, PI ends at infinity, which is to say it had no end, so PI has no definite ending but only an infinite one!

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Nomad

Yeah, the more we talk about this the more out posts start to confuse me :P

HahiHa
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Eh, I already said I am stubborn XD but I'm glad too this is cleared, it could have gone for hours..

greg_greg
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Peasant

lol, yeahh, but its a very confusing topic! lmfao, its just,fun i find

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everything has an end

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Pi is known to be irrational. Irrational numbers have decimal expansions that neither terminate nor become periodic.
NOTE:An irrational number is a number that cannot be expressed as a fraction p/q for any integers p and q.

The answer therefore is that pi (if its irrational as we consider it) has no end.

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I'm pretty sure it does, I remember hearing something about a university study getting the exact value which went to ten thousand digits or something.

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