look at religion over the years starting way back at medieval times the crusades or holy war caused many deaths all in the name of Christianity and that they killed people of other religion (i forgot the religion but i believe it was Muslim)in the name of there god and jumping back to modern times you can even base 9/11 on a religion if you can justify so is it not an honor to die suicide bombing or plane jacking if you can justify that you did it in the name of the Muslim god
so basically im looking for the opinion's of people on armor games do you think religion's worth it? please at least attempt to back up your answer
Woddy, I don't think you can use Nigeria as an example to back up your argument. There are soooo many other factors that go in to events like that. Simply being taught christianity would not have stopped those poor children from being manipulated, brain washed, and controlled by narcotics, by their elders.
I am not talking about only the children but the adults in charge of those organisations too.
Yes, African tribes kill for survival!
Well if u were from Nigeria or knew anything about the subject then you wouldnt say things that only serve to display your ignorance. These werent tribes doing the killing. These were rebel political factions that wanted to overturn the government. The rural tribes were the ones that got killed not the ones doing the killing. They did not kill for survival they killed to set up a new government. There is a clear difference.
Anyway. You Americans cannot really talk on this issue as you practically wiped out an entire race of native americans, so when you talk of african nations where you belive tribes just kill each other then look at your own history first.
You seem to be heavily basing your arguents on Christian and Muslim religion. What about Bhuddism? That is all about peace and harmony and abhorrs killing of any kind especially in wars. You also take the Crusades out of context. In those times peoples and kingdoms were warring with each other all the time. And this figure of 9 million dead isnt in one crusade but over a period of around 200 years.
Anyway. You Americans cannot really talk on this issue as you practically wiped out an entire race of native americans, so when you talk of african nations where you belive tribes just kill each other then look at your own history first.
Woody, I'm no American. I certainly do not know much of Africa. I certainly do know of the exploitation there though.
Sorry, for the incorrect statement, but do not attack me on it.
The point is still clear. Lack of religion is not what caused the people to kill.
And this figure of 9 million dead isnt in one crusade but over a period of around 200 years.
I know that. All I used to justify with the crusades is that religion is used to oppress the people and that even though a Christian moral is to not kill, they still did it.
You know, I'm not even sure what we are discussing.
Im just saying that even thoough there are many bad side effects to religion, people often ignore the good points too. The argument basically originated in the fact that i said that relgion was the source of morals and without it people wouldnt have originally have had them instilled and passed them down the generations, so theoretically people would rationalise everything and the world wouldnt be as good a place.
It might not be absoloutely nescessary but i dont think it should be taken away from people. I think people should be very careful. My mum has been very religious all her life and i have been an atheist, yet we respect each others views and i do not think she is worse off for her faith. Religion has caused a lot of problems but this has been because most often it has been an excuse to start off a conflict. The people at the head of the churches in the olden days would have no doubt found another way to exploit people to do their bidding in some other manner.
It's not that there would be no point, just no hope in life after death. Athiests, Agnostics, etc., don't believe in religion, or a complex form of it, (I think.) and they seem to have a point in life. Happiness, prosperity and all that good stuff. That looks like a point of living to me.
religon is worth every trouble it has caused me in the past i have expressed my beleifs before i have been beaten by those who hate it b ui do not care one day we will all find out whether it is worth what we go through
It's not that there would be no point, just no hope in life after death. Athiests, Agnostics, etc., don't believe in religion, or a complex form of it, (I think.) and they seem to have a point in life. Happiness, prosperity and all that good stuff. That looks like a point of living to me.
So you're saying we live life to have fun? Or to make as much money as you can? Or to love (which I suppose is a good reason to live). But then just to die? I know it sounds cynical but until we find the meaning of life I guess we can't do much else.
i dont think it is..your religion is your religion keep it to yourself!! oh and what i dont understand...well nvm..oh and i dont think religion would be out of hand if it wernt for past racism and judism
