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dragonico
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Which is better?
Write your opinion.
-Dragonico-

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macfan1
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Of course, pick one of the worst laptop makers in the industry.


Actually, I'd say that hp is the best (of the worst) of pc hardware. And if the best of pc's sucks...

Every year something new is created by microsoft and it's partners that make things better for the PC.


Sorry dude, this is the one (and probably the only) topic we clash.

Mac also has new stuff out every year( and usually even less than a year).
Moe
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Actually, I'd say that hp is the best (of the worst) of pc hardware.


Just because you don't know much about PCs doesn't make you right. HP laptops are known for have serious overheating issues from poor case design.

Mac also has new stuff out every year


I don't know if you've noticed, but Apple's "new" technology is almost always a year or more old.
master565
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Actually, I'd say that hp is the best (of the worst) of pc hardware. And if the best of pc's sucks...


Why would you say that?

So i'm getting a 17.3 inch Asus g74sx sometime in the next year (could be next week, could be summer). I've decided to compare the prices I would get for it compared to what I'd pay for specs in a mac.

Backstory about this computer. It's. A. Beast.

It's got a i7 2760QM quad core 2.4 processor.

A full HD 17.3 inch monitor.

It's got one of the most powerful graphics cards available for laptops, a Nvidia GTX 560M 3GB GDDR5. Yes, 3GB.

It's got 16GB of RAM. Yes, that's an insanely excessive amount, but they don't allow for customization and this is all they offer.

And it's got a 750GB 7200 RPM HDD

It's also supposedly got a very quiet cooling system.

Also, for only $350 more, you can get a 3D HD screen, and a 1.5 TB HDD (this is worth the money, I just don't need/want either).

This thing can run any modern game on some of it's highest settings (it ran Crysis 2 at 40 FPS on some of the highest settings)

All this, and Amazon is selling it for only $1,400 (it doesn't get cheaper than this).

So i want to see what apple would charge me for this. But we run into immediate problems because they don't allow you to upgrade to this much RAM, or this powerful of a graphics card, but i'll guess some prices based off what they charge for other things.

So, we start with the basic 17 inch macbook pro. Wait, we're already at $2500...

Their processors match up, so we'll leave those alone.

They don't offer 16 GB of ram, but the price to get from 4GB to 8GB is an additional 200$. To get 4 more GB of RAM, you need to pay 200, but 4 GB of ram is only worth about 30$ at most. So we can say they're charging you 500% of the price for each GB. Anyways, if each 4GB is 200, then we need to pay $600 to get to 16 GB, putting our price at $3100

We need to pay 50$ to upgrade from a 5200 RPM 750 GB HDD, to a 7200 RPM one, so [b]our price is now $3150

Now apple doesn't let you choose which graphics card you get, they force you to get a AMD Radeon HD 6770M with 1GB GDDR5. This is not a good graphics card. It's not terrible, but it's not going to render powerful 3D graphics. It's somewhere in the middle spectrum of cards. The graphics I'm getting is almost as high as it get's, and has 3 times the memory.

So, the price of my computer is $1,400, and the almost equivalent cost of the 17 inch macbook is $3150, and you're still getting the severely underpowered graphics card with it. So i'm paying Just under double the price for the mac, and i'm still getting a worse product.
master565
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I forgot to mention, the one I'm getting also had 3 USB 2.0 ports, and 1 USB 3.0 port, while the mac is lacking the 3.0 port.

wakyswag
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Okay, pick what works for you! Mac is great for editing, and PC is great at other things!

But hey watch this, and thank you Steeve Jobs for giving us something to last
click here to see an awesome youtube video!

master565
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Okay, pick what works for you! Mac is great for editing, and PC is great at other things!


Don't see why it would be better for editing, seeing as how bad the graphics card is.

But hey watch this, and thank you Steeve Jobs for giving us something to last rnclick here to see an awesome youtube video!


That video is kind of stupid. To start, the PC he is using is reaaaallly slow to begin with. Also, your comparing a modern OS to a an OS from the 1980's, when everything on computers was refined to run on the most minimal amount of processing power, meaning that OS is striped to the bone when you compare how much it actually is loading.

You want to see a good test? Either launch a 1985 computer with windows loaded on it, or launch OSX and Windows on modern computers.
wakyswag
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Alright, that was one sidded i do love mac. You see i work at a TV station, and i film and edit. i DO NOT use my PC for this. Instead i use the Mac's that they have there (iMac, Mac Book Air, Mac Book Pro, all newest updated.) and i like the software that can only run on mac. digital editing is slandered on Mac, NOT PC. Also, mac is completely user-friendly and has much better tech support (in my experience, i said this so you would not yell at me) on a Mac. Also, it looks alot better, on screen and not onescreen. I have Windows 7, and i think it sorta copied Mac on the dock feature. it looks similar to a Mac's dock, and works the same way (roughly) as well. I do also like Mac better, less virus (i think there are only 4 known, ill look it up.) and very good for editing.



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Moe
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digital editing is slandered on Mac, NOT PC.


I don't think slandered means what you think it does.

mac is completely user-friendly


My grandfather managed to completely destroy his Mac. All he does is email.

has much better tech support (in my experience, i said this so you would not yell at me) on a Mac.


Apple's tech support pretty much only replaces the computer, they don't actually do anything truly helpful.

I have Windows 7, and i think it sorta copied Mac on the dock feature.


I'm almost 100% certain windows 7 doesn't have a built in dock feature. My computer came with a dock, but it was put there by Dell.

less virus (i think there are only 4 known, ill look it up.)


There are way more than 4. Macs do have fewer viruses than PCs, but only because they have a smaller market share. They also lack the anti-virus PCs have which means when they do get a virus its really hard to handle, especially since Apple denies any viruses exist.

very good for editing.


In the modern world a PC can edit just as well as a Mac, but the PC costs less.
dragonico
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hmm...havent got a response from this topic -_-

Well...I heard that Mac just released the "new Ipad" and it has been a big hit

jkl3848
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I have a PC, but Mac is way better.

badboy97777
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Pc is best if you are experienced in modifieng software.
A max is extremely secured compared to windows.
For example if you want to modify your drivers it will be handy if you use a PC however, a mac provides more security (for peoples which don't know alot about modifieng software or development). A pc can get the same or an even better security level, it depends on youw knowledge and skills.

I love PC's since you can acces a lot things easier than on a mac, I've both so I know what I'm talking about.

master565
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Well...I heard that Mac just released the "new Ipad" and it has been a big hit


The company's name is Apple... and all that has been said is that Apple has described their sales as "record breaking". They haven't released any numbers, and record breaking is a term that can mean anything. It could be referring to a record low, and they could just be saying this to make it sound like people are buying it.
jkl3848
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I heard that most of the people likely to buy the new IPad is people who already have an IPad. But I still think Mac makes better quality products.

dragonico
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man...this thread is starting to die...gotta think of something quick...O___O

Is it true that there is a thing called windows 8?

Mr_Sand
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s it true that there is a thing called windows 8?

They are coming out with it.
Also I think it is stupid that the Ipad doesn't use macs operating system and it is almost the same price as a Macbook.
I think it should have an OS so its not so pointless otherwise its just like a giant Iphone or Ipod Touch
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